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The Agony and Ecstasy of Brit bikes

Strawboss

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Owning anything British, especially anything on wheels from the 40's-80's, specifically 70's, requires supreme levels of passion as well as patience. On one level, the act of starting, riding and maintaining such a machine creates a bond as it is so far removed from what most of us are used to in motorcycles ie; anything Japanese.

On another, many times it foments sheer madness and anger that you want to get on a plane and confront the designers face to face so you can slap them with a pair of soft Italian calf skin leather gloves and mention the marriage status of their parents while calling them schweinhunds and challenging them to a duel of trying to start a bike with only 2 kicks.

I have a '79 Triumph 750cc Bonneville Special, the special in the name separates it from the other bikes in that it has special paint, pipes, wheels, ignition, not Lucas, and, best of all, starting method, kick only, yaaaaaaay! The previous was said in a sarcastic way for those who are not as quick witted as me, sarcasm seems to be a lost art today.........I'll point it out with future icons for reading enjoyment.

The Triumph Bonneville was for some time the fastest thing on the road, on two wheels, some may say the H-D Sportster was faster, and it may have been but the Triumph ruled really till the Honda CB750 came along.

Edward Turner designed the Triumph twin back in the 30's, and, like the H-D twin, did not change the design dramatically for almost 50 years, or, until they went out of business in the mid-80's. You could, like the H-D use parts from the 30's on your 80's bike, not many but some. H-D used marketing to stay alive and sold more clothing and "lifestyle" items to make money in the 80's. Without going into too much here, Triumph slowly went down in the 70's, absorbed by non-bike companies, bad decisions, strikes and bad build quality, with the last bikes sold here in 1982. They weren't bad but the damage was done and folks were buying up GpZ's, GS1100's and the like.

To make a long story short, for every hour you may ride a Brit bike, it can be said that you may spend an hour maintaining it. Parts are easy to come by and with the internet it's much easier now than when I got mine in 1986 as virtually a basket case with 8000 miles on it, so boogered up as to try to make it faster almost destroyed the bike. This is common with old Brit bikes. You can make them scream, but it takes much knowledge and a lot of money and time and patience to do. Then there's the frame and brakes, refer to the 30's design features previously mentioned. It took me more than a few years to get this bike to where it's at today and it's still an ongoing work of art. Beautiful to look at and hear running, solid on the road, but, many things have to be in place for that to happen, it's nowhere near like riding anything else. It's hard to fathom my '79 is only a few years older than my '82 KZ and the original design ideas of the '86 C-10. When you realize this, you realize why they stopped selling bikes. The ironic thing is that the Japanese started copying the Brit bikes in the 60's and 70's. W650, XS650 etc...They were better, didn't leak, more reliable, started every time, easier to work on with metric wrenches, not Whitworth's, another reason for madness. Sarcasm :LOL:

So, in closing thanks for reading this Brit bike primer, the reason being, I just ordered a new fuel tap as the old one was done, and I felt compelled to revel and my madness-sarcasm:LOL:. BTW, there are two taps, main and reserve, the Brits call them petcocks, our Puritan culture refrains from such terms-sarcasm:LOL:. It's the ongoing saga of owning a bike that creates a love/hate relationship that endures the test of time. Bonneville#1.jpg
 
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Nice write up. I’ve always been interested in Brit bikes but had no knowledge about them. This article would be a nice companion piece to the one OnoBob is preparing for the Concourier on Vintage bikes.
 
Nice write up. I’ve always been interested in Brit bikes but had no knowledge about them. This article would be a nice companion piece to the one OnoBob is preparing for the Concourier on Vintage bikes.

Ron
Dave has already submitted couple of significant pieces on his vintage bikes the article..
'I will copy and paste this in and forward to the editor.
 
I could write volumes of my love/hate with the Bonneville, anybody who has ever owned one knows exactly of what I'm talking about. Bikes are just one facet, cars are a whole nuther beast, a Gawd awful beast that will take you and engulf you and eat you and spit you out till you are a blubbering mass of seething pain, penniless, souless and without form, waiting for your maker to take you to your reward.
 
I could write volumes of my love/hate with the Bonneville, anybody who has ever owned one knows exactly of what I'm talking about. Bikes are just one facet, cars are a whole nuther beast, a Gawd awful beast that will take you and engulf you and eat you and spit you out till you are a blubbering mass of seething pain, penniless, souless and without form, waiting for your maker to take you to your reward.

English electrical systems were legendary for malfunctioning. One of my friends in college had a 1971 Triumph Mark IV convertible. He’d tape the headlights and borrow my full face helmet, then go riding around N Georgia pretending he was a racer. But he also had to disconnect the battery when it rained because it would short out and blow the horn and burn the lights all by itself in the parking lot.
 
That's a good looking T140D. Looks all original.

I too think that the late 1960 Bonneville is the best looking bike ever.
My first "big" bike purchase was a new 1976 T140V. Scarily, I still own it and ride it regularly.
I was hit from behind by a drunk in 1980 and the bike was totaled. I kept the bike and did the
minimum to get it rolling again. Now, 44 years late, it has 43000 miles on her.
Not a lot by C10 standards, but most of these bikes were parked early in their life
with some minor issue that the owner gave up on.

With all the other stablemates to ride, the Triumph only gets 500 to 1000 miles a year.
Whenever I think that I should sell her, I go out for a ride and come back saying to myself,
"I'll never sell". Doesn't cost much to keep.

It has for me been a reliable bike. It broke a clutch spring in the first 50 miles and had a broken
inner valve spring, probably since new, My guess is these springs were lying around during
the factory lockout and somehow made their way to the engine assembly.
Still running the points ignition.

Mine will never be valuable, so I just ride and maintain it.
It's a "10 foot" bike. Any closer and you can see all her flaws.
It's certainly not a highway bike, but get on a twisty road and let the magic begin. It's been
trucked to the Blue Ridge Parkway a number of times, and that is where she's in her element.

Like most of our old bikes, you need to be able to do most of the repairs yourself. They were
designed in an era where maintenance intervals were short and that was acceptable.

Long live the Queen/King

Bruce
COG 2045
 

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I put year correct factory pipes on it as it had straight pipes when I got it and the awful looking 2 into 1 pipes actually robbed power, everyone yanked them the day after they bought theirs, and guess what? Those pipes are worth almost as much as a complete bike if original and if you can find them.
 
Agree about the twisties…..
I enjoyed my old KZ650 much more than my C10 at this year’s national and last years RWTW.
 
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